Yesterday’s Death Stranding trailer confirmed the appearances of both Guillermo del Toro and Nicolas Winding Refn in Hideo Kojima’s next game. But they really are, quite literally, just that: appearances.

In a tweet, Kojima explained that Winding Refn has had his face and body scanned for the game’s Heartman character, but that another actor is responsible for animating and voicing him. The same process has been applied to del Toro.