Warning: This article contains SPOILERS for Joker.

Joker director Todd Phillips has addressed a major fan theory that suggests Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker might not be Batman’s true nemesis.

Phillips recently sat down with the L.A. Times to delve into several of the film’s ambiguities, including whether or not Arthur Fleck’s Clown Prince of Crime is the actual Joker that we have come to know. In the interview, he proposed that the troubled character might in fact serve as inspiration for the Gotham City supervillain.

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Source: IGN.com Joker Director Addresses Fan Theory About Arthur Fleck's Ties to Batman