What appears to be a clip of an emotional outburst from Joker actor Joaquin Phoenix, criticizing a crew member of the film for calling him names, has confused moviegoers and the internet alike.

The clip first aired on Jimmy Kimmel Live last week, as Kimmel interviewed Phoenix about his role playing the iconic villain. The clip, which Kimmel claims to have received from director Todd Phillips, appears to show Phoenix in Joker makeup on set, verbally chewing out a cinematographer named Larry for calling him “Cher.” Lawrence Sher is the credited cinematographer on Joker, and according to Entertainment Weekly, goes by Larry.

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Source: IGN.com Joker: Joaquin Phoenix's Jimmy Kimmel Outtake Outburst a 'Joke'