Martin Scorsese is wading back into the controversy he sparked when he said Marvel movies are “not cinema.” Scorsese later clarified his comments, saying Marvel movies were a “new art form” and akin to theme parks.

Now, Scorsese is offering his opinion on whether Joker, which he almost produced, is cinema.

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Source: IGN.com Martin Scorsese on Whether Joker Is Cinema and Why He Didn’t Produce It